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they were mammoth cars with a real couch in the back seat. We could stop at deserted places and have some
romantic moments of stillness to meet the girls – whose gave us a lot of work. The cinema also influenced me,
all those films about youth with car scenes. I consider Elvis Presley an extraordinary figure, conveyed sexual
liberation, the guitar with his female body and doing all that gestures.
How do you see the mixture between your much-intellectual works and others so popular in your production?
Apparently it is a contradiction, but today I see it with calmness. I still continue to write in my paintings, I like
that. Maybe it is a really sturdy contradiction... I was once at the Buenos Aires airport andmy aunt, who passed
away just few months later, handed me a shoebox containing about 25 passports of my family, inclusive of
people who were strangers to me, and a fewmore photographs. She said: “This is all that I carried from Russia,
is our memory”. I kept that and saw that those things weremy identity. We started the interview talking about
identity. I am that. These passports are me. I devised a gigantic passport and print everything in lithography,
a very complicated process, I went to do it in Colombia with a friend of mine who had the courage to print all
those passports in plates and lithographs
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. I found a poem from a childhood friend on split personality. There
is also that people who leave their places, go to others assume new lives, identities, personalities, stamps,
who marry and form families. All this moves me, I cannot separate this world from the text and thought. I do
not abandon the image, I am working always with it, and the text is, for me, always intriguing.
Fábio Magalhães
is a museologist, curator and art critic. He was director of the Pinacoteca do Estado de São Paulo
(1979-1982), Secretary of the Culture of the Municipality of São Paulo (1983), president of Embrafilme (1988), chief
curator of the MASP (1989-1994), president of the Fundação Memorial da América Latina (Memorial Foundation of
Latin America) (1995-2003), curator of the 2nd and
3rd bienais de Artes Visuais of Mercosul
, in Porto Alegre (1998-
2001) and Assistant Secretary of the Ministry of Culture (2005). He taught at several institutions as the Faculdade de
Filosofia, Letras e Ciências, at the Universidade de São Paulo (USP), the Faculdade de Arquitetura at the Universidade
de Brasilia, in Universidade Católica de Campinas and the Mackenzie Institute. He is the counselor of the foundations
Bienal de São Paulo
and
Padre Anchieta
and the Instituto Itaú Cultural, among others.
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GERCHMAN, Rubens.
Dupla Identidade
. Bogotá: Arte dos Gráfico, 1994. Book of lithographs with text by Armando Freitas Filho.
(N.O.).